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Denelle DeFer's avatar

A quarter century or more ago, I counseled at the church when Jeff pastored my kiddos, 13, 14, and 15 years old. My kids said he was funny and I observed that, too. However, as you mentioned, Jeff, pastors are pied pipers. There were several other pipers vying for the same bowl. I listened to all sides but love was lacking in some pipers. It wasn’t pretty. Very ugly. Decision to part ways from folks you were in company with is painful but necessary to survive then thrive again. I see it as a pruning process akin to wintertime. The dead wood falls off. If I choose my people with care, I know if they don’t stick to me, it’s really okay. I’m going to thrive. How about you?

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Alison Acheson's avatar

Humble and funny should be the first two requirements listed in any pastor job posting, not necessarily in that order.

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Alison Acheson's avatar

Wow. But too believable. (I'm having a lot of thoughts about the potential for narcissism, and the huge role of humility in leadership--the Tao has some wonderful words about leading...) Very wise to bring in the officials. It is their job. Recognizing each of our job, our work. It's important to know what is NOT yours to do. Thanks for sharing.

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Jeff Gill's avatar

So much potential for narcissism and other personality disorders. Do you remember this that made the rounds a few years ago? https://theweek.com/articles/457731/which-professions-have-most-psychopaths

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Denelle DeFer's avatar

Yes, humility. I had read the Tao’s writings prior so I wasn’t duped. But watched and listened as it unraveled leaving many in the wake. Th was concerning to me.

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Denelle DeFer's avatar

β€œthat”

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Jeff Gill's avatar

Useful thing: If you click/tap the three dots at the bottom of your comment, you can edit it. It is a feature I have used several times.

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Denelle DeFer's avatar

I was glad I caught it, but thanks.

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Rogue Rosalie's avatar

Great Fight Club reference.

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Jeff Gill's avatar

Thank you. I’ve been meaning to watch that film again for several years now.

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Rogue Rosalie's avatar

I just watched it again maybe 2 weeks ago. Did. Not. Disappoint. I've been re-watching some movies that I loved in my youth and it's like a new movie with my more mature perspective. Next up, The Big Labowski.

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Jeff Gill's avatar

Excellent! I only saw that one for the first time a couple years ago.

Speaking of the movies of one’s youth. Have you seen The Matrix Resurrections? Did you like it? I didn’t think it was anywhere close to perfect, but I thought it was a ton of fun.

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Rogue Rosalie's avatar

It was fun and I liked it. I agree completely with your assessment. If you've not seen Love and Monsters, it's excellent. Malignant was a really fun horror movie. Do you have any favorites from the last few years?

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Jeff Gill's avatar

I’ve seen very few movies the last couple years. I love the John Wick series. Parabellum was a crazy extended meditation on the inequities that exist between the people with power and the people who do the actual work. Also it has a chase scene with a horse vs motorcycles.

The Sound of Metal about a musician going deaf is a great story.

Queen and Slim is so so good.

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Rogue Rosalie's avatar

I've not seen either of those, but I do own all the John Wicks and love them. If you have access to HBO, Station Eleven was so good. It's a 10 episode series, so doesn't consume as much time.

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